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mik3cap ([personal profile] mik3cap) wrote2004-04-15 09:10 am

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In Louisiana alone, it takes 32,500,000 gallons of gasoline to produce corn on 500,000 acres.

That's the equivalent of driving 38,461 SUVs or 28,837 pickup trucks all year. Just for the corn in Louisiana.

For all the corn in the U.S... it's 5,330,768 SUVs or 3,996,893 pickup trucks.

(assuming 0.5 gallons of gasoline to produce a bushel, and 130 bushels per acre in 2003, 9 mpg for pickup trucks, and 12 mpg for SUVs)

[Note that the lower number of pickup trucks is *bad* because it means that pickup trucks use more gas than SUVs!]

[identity profile] mikecap.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
It's an honest and factual statement. It's not exaggerated, and it's not couched in unclear language.

If you count the gasoline usage of corn production in terms of the worst gas guzzling cars available, that is the number you get.

There is no value judgement. There is no propoganda. These are simple facts.

What's your problem with accepting that?

Maybe it "sounds evil" because it IS.

[identity profile] rantfaery.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 09:07 am (UTC)(link)
Haha.
This argument is entertaining to me.
Keep it coming, baby!
;)
I have a craving for corn on the cob...mmmm...!
SUV's are covered in blood. Like diamonds, potatoes, and corn.
(again, tongue firmly planted in cheek for those who don't get it. ;P)

[identity profile] kaetaur.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
I always enjoy a good argument. Plus if it get awareness up about something it is good. I never get angry about them because the purpose of arguing is communication. In communication we learn.

[identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
No, the point of arguing is to show that the other guy is wrong! WRONG!

[identity profile] kaetaur.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Onl for the un-illuminated. :)

[identity profile] rantfaery.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 10:12 am (UTC)(link)
YES!
What is this "communication" shite?
Jeezus.
;)
I'm right; everyone else is WRONG.
Suck on it.
(yeah, tongue plan--oh, hell, you know the drill--I just feel the need to make sure no one's laboring under false poopiness. Or something)

[identity profile] neuromancerzss.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 10:52 am (UTC)(link)
I can't believe you think that. You're completely WRONG!

god, you are so WRONG!!

[identity profile] rantfaery.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Shut up, bitch!
I'll kick your ass!
I'm kicking ass for two, now!
Let's go!
I'll run you over with my Grand Dominator! (http://poseur.4x4.org/futuresuv.html)
Aww yeah.
How's THAT for SUV's, baby?!

[identity profile] neuromancerzss.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
If you count the gasoline usage of corn production in terms of the worst gas guzzling cars available, that is the number you get.

Actually, no it isn't. Pickups and luxury sedans are worse. (<a href="http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/bestworst_mileage/"http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/bestworst_mileage/") My problem is that this statement uses SUVs because people hate SUVs. Whether you want to accept such or not, that's propoganda.

[identity profile] mikecap.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 09:41 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, just one second... first off, in the very article you cite, the worst luxury sedan is 12 mpg and the worst SUV is 12 mpg!

I'll be happy to revise my statement to match the ABSOLUTE WORST mileage in the pickup truck, instead of the SECOND WORST mileage from SUVs (tied with luxury sedans).

[identity profile] kaetaur.livejournal.com 2004-04-15 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
I will happily remove the pickups and sedans with the same mileage as well. The problem ends up being the attitude connected with the people that purchase such vehicles. It is evident in the way they drive as well as the gas-guzzler they own. I do my best to treat them all with equal hate.

I am not prejudice... I hate "you" all the same.

"You" in that statement is for the populace at large and not intended for any specific person posting here. Anyone I am willing to argue with I like enough to try and help them learn.