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Jul. 14th, 2008 11:05 am
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People just need to get over sex, for pity's sake. I mean seriously...

http://feeds.reuters.com/~r/reuters/oddlyEnoughNews/~3/335077627/idUSN1441724120080714

Who was hurt by this? Are you honestly telling me these vacationing British women weren't consenting to the sex? And were they really plying trade, or just having a good time? I mean, this is like bursting into someone's house and arresting everyone for illegal gambling over a friendly cash poker game.

Why do people have so many fucking hangups? (pun intended) If people could just get over the fact that they have genitals, and that other people have genitals, and that sometimes genitals touch together, THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE.

- Fewer teen pregnancies and unwanted children with more available birth control
- Fewer STIs if people were more cognizant of symptoms and had more info and had more access to condoms
- More equality between the sexes
- Improved health overall

Let people pay for sex if they want to. What business is it of yours if two people have sex and exchange money? No one gets to legislate "sinfulness". Not in democracies anyway. This religious fundamentalist crap has got to end, we don't live in a fucking theocracy.

Give up the "forbidden fruit" bullshit already. It just hurts everyone to hide sex and knowledge about sex because of ridiculous superstitions and unthinking "rules" of morality based on millenia-out-of-date traditions.

on 2008-07-14 04:07 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jessnut.livejournal.com
The flaw in your logic is that the sex industry is the biggest transmitter of STDs out there. Guys don't like to wear condoms, they are not going to wear a condom and get less enjoyment from sex they are paying for, that's like renting a sports car and not going over the speed limit. Yes it's REALLY dumb to have sex with a hooker without a condom but it happens. And the hooker isn't always in a position to insist so she in turn gets exposed to anything the guy might have.

If there wasn't a big link between sex and the drug industry (woman trading sex for drugs and because they are addicts they can't really consent because they are not in their right mind, as well as pimps hooking women on drugs to make them more controable), and there wasn't a problem with forced sex service from run-aways kids, illegal immigrants, and all the other illegal activity tied to the sex industry.

And don't start your diatribe that if it was legal that wouldn't be a problem becuase it's legal in Nevada and in Amsterdam and they have the same problems there.

Yes the concept of sex-a'la-cart (to quote from Down with Love) is a fine concept. Sex clubs where conenting adults can go to meet other horny people and get it on with each other should be fine. If you start trading sex for money or other reimbursments you start having a problem. The women (or men) become a comodity and not a person anymore. They now have a service they are expected to provide and loose the expectation of choice. It is a fact that people (Americans) treat things that are not their own poorly. Americans trash hotel rooms, rental cars, and otherwise have the it's not mine so what do I care what happens to it attitude. When you mix sex, drugs, and people with that mentality it cannot but end poorly.

on 2008-07-14 05:00 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] neuromancerzss.livejournal.com
You can totally legislate sinfulness in a democracy. The only document we have which determines what sorts of things you can make law out of is the Constitution, every other theory about what opinions people should or should not vote for is just personal opinion. Now *I* think we shouldn't legislate victimless crimes, but there's nothing innate to democracy to prevent the legislation of morality.

The "failing" here is not matching our more liberal view of the ideal role of laws, not being bad at modern democracy.

on 2008-07-15 06:12 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] jessnut.livejournal.com
Your initial outrage is unfounded. I guess Reuters forgot to mention that the women were paid to participate in the contest.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080714/od_nm/britain_dc;_ylt=AumtYk8xuIlznIYGjg_en0rtiBIF

That's why they were arrested.

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